Sunday, October 17, 2010

Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

 

@jagne berarti kalo pake kiprok supra itu jatohnya si lampu jadi AC ya?brarti kalo gak di gas ngeredup donk yak??
bisa memperpendek umur spool gak ya kalo di gituin *bingung*

*teteppenasaransamaskemapemasangannya*
@ody kalo mau standar bisa juga, cuman max pake H4 yg 55/60wattCMIIW

-AWP-It's Not About How Fast You Can Go, But How Smart You Can Ride..

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Tanggal: Sabtu, 16 Oktober, 2010, 10:15 PM

 

Mau nanya...

Jadi kalo pasang H4 tapi standar gimana Om?

Harus ganti aki dan merubah kelistrikan gak?

Salam

Oky

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From: "Yudi 'JagNe' Setiawan" <udee.s46@gmail.com>

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:22:28

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

Itulah hebatnya montir Indonesia mas bor.....bisa ngakalin apa yg gak bisa kita dpt dari Honda....yah tipikal kita kan gitu....mau barang bagus tapi murah....coba kalo dibuat spt yg sampeyan mau....gak bakal dpt tuh di harga 20 jtan...hahahaha

*alternatip staill

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From: "Boni Soehakso" <bondberry.traffic@gmail.com>

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 08:57:17

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

Harusnya ga nanggung yak? Motor moge kok cuman 35watt? Seandaikata waktu itu arsiteknya lbh serius, lampu H4 100watt, klakson truk, aki 15A, rasanya ga perlu modif macem2.

*diiringi bunyi petir....... Hahaha, nepok jidat... Ngimpi!!

Hahhaha....

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From: "Arif Budiman" <arif11.budiman@lge.com>

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:46:03

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

abis mo gimana lagi om

saya kan bela2in beli motor 200cc yang termasuk motor gede di jamannya

kalo fitur mogenya dipretelin balik ke cara lama, kaga berasa punya moge

lagi dah

heheheheh

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From: "Yudi 'JagNe' Setiawan" <udee.s46@gmail.com>

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Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 3:40 PM

Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

Kagak lah....ciri khas bekasi aja mas bon....disini kita saling

sharing...monggo yg mau mempertahankan tehnologi kemogeannya walau gak moge2

amat sih....kalo saiah sih yg penting fungsi bin murah.....hailll alternatip

staillll

*hormat gaya hitler

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From: "Boni Soehakso" <bondberry.traffic@gmail.com>

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 08:04:46

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

Hehehe.... Om jagne emosi nih ye....

*qiqiqiqi..... Kabooooerrr........

"teman anda membutuhkan bantuan anda, yuk dibantu..."

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From: "Yudi 'JagNe' Setiawan" <udee.s46@gmail.com>

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 06:44:26

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

Ehemmm...tp kalo nyala kan seterang moge.....sebodo mau dibilang jadul

kek...mau vespah kek....yg penting teranggg...drpd situ pake H4 tp kyk pake

lampu standar....hahahahaha

*njungkel

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-----Original Message-----

From: "Arif Budiman" <arif11.budiman@lge.com>

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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 13:19:29

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

wah kalo gitu insinyur Honda percuma bikin lampu Tiger jadi ala moge

(lampu bisa nyala tanpa mesin nyala)

kalo ternyata lebih prefer sistem lampu ala Vespa heheheheh

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From: "Yudi 'JagNe' Setiawan" <udee.s46@gmail.com>

To: "HTML" <honda-tiger@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 12:56 PM

Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

Cuma mau tanya....mang lampu dipake kalo motor gak jalan yah mas bor.... ?

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-----Original Message-----

From: Acep Irwandi <lexz.irwandi@yahoo.com>

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:53:09

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

wah kalo giru gak bisa adu terang dong bro, bakal seri, kalo lg idel kalah

ama

lampu yg DC kalo di gas baru menang soalnya arus nya langsung ke lampu gak

terbagi ke batre kayak lampu yg DC

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From: Boni Soehakso <bondberry.traffic@gmail.com>

To: Html <honda-tiger@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Sat, October 16, 2010 12:39:44 PM

Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

Betul bro....... Prinsipnya mau lampu terang saat jalan ato terang di lampu

merah, makanya trus ikut alternatip stail om jagne

"teman anda membutuhkan bantuan anda, yuk dibantu..."

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From: Acep Irwandi <lexz.irwandi@yahoo.com>

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 22:26:45

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

koreksi --> betul bro boni, rpm 1000 aja udah 12 volt( barusan

ngukur)hehehe...

,lampu bakal putus kalo gak pake regulator. wah kalo di adu ama hid gak tau

ane

soal nya lumen nya hid beda n sinarnya kurang fokus. jadi sekarang lampunya

bro

boni mengikuti putaran mesin ya? kalo idel redup kalo di gas baru terang?

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From: Boni Soehakso <bondberry.traffic@gmail.com>

To: Html <honda-tiger@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Sat, October 16, 2010 10:39:13 AM

Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

Hehe...... Kebetulan ane dah pake 130/100 ga ada masalah. Udah dr bulan juli

akhir plus mudik magelang. Kebetulan yg mengubah jalur lampu juga udah

berulangkali riset jadi baru brani pasang di jagne ama gue stlah berhasil.

Hehe...... Ga bakal putus kalo dibawah 3000rpm? Hahaha..... Tanpa kiprok

supra

kmaren 55watt putus diposisi 1800RPM. Kmaren adu terang ama tigi yg pake

HID,

saya pake 130/100 dgn kiprok supra, tetep lebih terang H4. Silahkan konsul

ke om

jagne aja untuk jelasnya.

"teman anda membutuhkan bantuan anda, yuk dibantu..."

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-----Original Message-----

From: Acep Irwandi <lexz.irwandi@yahoo.com>

Sender: honda-tiger@yahoogroups.com

Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:14:54

To: <honda-tiger@yahoogroups.com>

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

yang membuat lampu putus itu tegangan bro boni bukan arus, tegangan yg di

hasilkan alternator/spool itu fluktuasi atau naik turun sesuai puratan

mesin.

nah kalo lampu H4 di pasang gak pake kiprok, gak bakal putus kalo rpm nya

rendah( <3000) karena tegangan yg keluar tidak lebih dari 12 volt. kalo

digas

lebih dari 3000 tegangan nya bisa mencapai 20Volt, ya apapun yg lebih dari

12

volt bakalan putus.

H4 55 Watt; P=V*I ;

I=P/V ; jadi arus H4 55 Watt = 55/12 = 4.5 Ampere

kiprok supra isi dalam nya ada1 buah dioda 3 Ampere, transistor dan dioda

zener

12 volt sebagai regulator tegangan.

lampu std supra 35 watt, jadi arusnya = 35/12 = 2.9 Amper.

nah disini bisa dilihat kiprok supra hanya dibuat untuk lampu 35 watt agar

pencahayaan nya pempurna. kalo di paksa pake lampu 55 wat maka arusnya

kurang

1.4 amper untuk pencahayaan yg sempurna.

kalo bro boni adu terang H4 55 W ama H4 std nya tigi yg cuma 35 W, bakal

ketutup

tuh ama H4 nya ori tigi. karena apa?? kiprok tigi outputnya pasti lebih

besar

dari 3 amper sehingga arusnya cukup untuk memaksimalkan pencahayaan lampu.

nah saran ane kalo pake lampu 55 Watt kiproknya pake yg 5 ampere atau lebih

biar

didapat pencahayaan yg maksimal. tp ingat setiap perubahan pada penambahan

kelistrikan ada konsekwensinya..

semoga membantu... trims

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From: Boni Soehakso <bondberry.traffic@gmail.com>

To: Html <honda-tiger@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 11:01:50 PM

Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

Coba buka dulu spool motor honda supra x dan liat sistem kelistrikan lampu

nya.

Nah, di tiger yg untuk lampu td nya DC diubah jadi AC mengikuti honda supra.

Kalo mengubah lampu H4 di tiger tanpa dikasi kiprok supra, maka lampu H4

brapapun akan putus, knapa? Krn kiprok ini membatasi pemakaian lampu H4,

misalkan kita pake H4 55watt, maka arus dr spool ditahan oleh kiprok supra

supaya tdk lebih dari 5ampere.

*colek om jagne

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-----Original Message-----

From: Acep Irwandi <lexz.irwandi@yahoo.com>

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 07:24:41

To: <honda-tiger@yahoogroups.com>

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

spool di tirev ada 8 biji, 1 yg terbungkus warna hitam buat pengapian n 7

spool

yg dihubung seri yg gak terbungkus buat kiprok. kalo di pisah 2 biji n ke

kiprok

tambahan, bukannya tegangan nya malah nggak cukup n ke kiprok ori malah

turun??

menurut ane sih gak usah di ubah tuh spool biarin terhubung seri biar

tegangan

yg dihasilkan diatas 15 volt. kalo bro mau tambah kiprok silahkan aja ambil

di

kabel yg warna kuning di kiprok, kalo ane gak salah diameter kawat spool

buat

kiprok itu, sanggup suplay arus 15 Amper. kalo cuma pake kiprok supra sih

outputnya masih kecil bro 3 Amper. kalo mau gede lagi pake IC regulator cari

yg

12 volt 10 Ampere, banyak tuh di gelodok. dijamin pake apapun gak tekor, tp

apa

akibatnya??? dengan besarnya konsumsi arus maka pada spool akan terbentuk

medan

magnet yg besar, medan magnet ini akan saling tarik menarik dengan magnet yg

terhubung dengan crankshaft. gaya tarik menarik ini akan membuat kerja

engine

jadi berat dan akan menimbulkan penurunan Rpm sehingga kita dituntut untuk

menambah bukaan gas dan terjadilah yg namanya boros bensin...!!!!! hehehe...

sorry bro kepanjangan....

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From: Rully Yogaswara <rullyyogaswara_deoty@yahoo.com>

To: Milis html honda tiger <honda-tiger@yahoogroups.com>

Sent: Fri, October 15, 2010 7:44:12 PM

Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

Udehhh dateng aje ke wm nggi, liat lgsg.

☑ just droid

-----Original Message-----

From: "Boni Soehakso" <bondberry.traffic@gmail.com>

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 12:41:17

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

Gue ga punya skema nya. Mas jagne jg ga punya. Kalo gue dijelasin malah

tambah

puyeng coba mas jagne ditanya dulu

"teman anda membutuhkan bantuan anda, yuk dibantu..."

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From: Anggi Wirza <dj_wirza2006@yahoo.co.id>

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 20:32:29

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

ayo donk di share masalah ini...

apa perlu bikin thread di forum KHTI nih biar lebih jelas + skema-skemanya..

*takjubpasangH4110/130wattgaktekor*

-AWP-It's Not About How Fast You Can Go, But How Smart You Can Ride..

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Tanggal: Jumat, 15 Oktober, 2010, 11:19 AM

Betul.... Dari spul, kan ada 6 biji tuh. 1 yg hitam untuk pengapian. Nah dr

sisa

5 biji itu dipake 2 biji aja dan ubah jalur nya jadi 2biji gulungan kalo ga

salah ada yg positif ada yg negatif, masuk ke kiprok supra trus ke lampu.

Duh

ane aja dijelasin kaga ngerti neh. Ntar malah korslet, mending om yudi aja

yg

jelasin

"teman anda membutuhkan bantuan anda, yuk dibantu..."

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From: "Yudi 'JagNe' Setiawan" <udee.s46@gmail.com>

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 03:52:16

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

Spool gak digulung ulang...krn spool bawaan motor dah mumpuni...boleh tanya

ama

boni yg dah test hasil keluaran dari spool....utk penambahan item yg lain

gak

ada hanya kiprok dan jalurnya aja yg dirubah

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-----Original Message-----

From: bayuteguhindradewa@yahoo.com

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 02:58:51

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

Upss... Maap krg lengkap,,maksdnya bisa aja --> kalo gak mati2 bangkrut

donk

pabrik lampu...hehehe

Mksd pertnyaan sy gn, kl lampu ambl lgs dr spool,itu spoolnya hny digulung

ulang

saja ato ada penambahan2 item2 lgi yg laen?

N kl misal tetep mau dgn cr std (tdk ambl dr spool), kt tmbhnkn dengan relay

mx

apa kira2 itu sudah cukup?

Ato ada saran dr bro yudi?

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-----Original Message-----

From: Yudi Setiawan <udee.s46@gmail.com>

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 09:53:24

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Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

hehh....maksudnya bisa apa nih..??......spool yg mana yg mati biar

jelas........

--

B 5163 XU

yangdiboxnyaadastikerJAGOANEON

2010/10/15 <bayuteguhindradewa@yahoo.com>

>

>

> Wakakakakk.... Bisa mas bor...:p

>

> Itu spullnya hny digulung ulang lagi ato ada yg mesti ditambah? Tetep pake

> relay kah?

>

> Lalu seandainya kiprok std tetep mau dipertahankan,tp pgnnya lampu tetep

> terang pas digunakan,apa dgn ditmbh penggunaan relay mx aja udh cukup?ato

> ada saran dri bro jagne?

>

> ΤĤªNĸś ☺....™

>

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: "Yudi 'JagNe' Setiawan" <udee.s46@gmail.com <udee.s46%40gmail.com>>

> Sender: honda-tiger@yahoogroups.com <honda-tiger%40yahoogroups.com>

> Date: Fri, 15 Oct 2010 01:26:07

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> Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

>

>

> gak juga mas bor....biar gak dari spool pun lampu juga bakalan

> mati....kalo

> gak mati2 bangkrut donk pabrik lampu...hehehe

>

>

> *yg masih awet lampunya

>

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> Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 11:38:34

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> tiger<honda-tiger@yahoogroups.com<honda-tiger%40yahoogroups.com>>

>

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> Subject: Re: Bls: Bls: [honda-tiger] WTA = lampu h4

>

> Kl lampu lgs ambl dr spull,,kl suatu saat lampunya mati,apa itu berarti

> spullnya jg rusak?

>

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